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The Two Joels

This story originally appeared in the August 2, 2007 issue of The Coast.

The Joel Plaskett Emergency is set to go on stage in five minutes. Outside, at Alderney Landing in Dartmouth, roughly 3,000 fans wait patiently in the unseasonable chilly July fog. This is the band’s first hometown gig in support of its latest record,

Ashtray Rock, a semi-autobiographical album of teenage love and music set in Clayton Park.

It would seem that the stakes are high for this show but backstage, you’d never know it. The Joel Plaskett Emergency—singer-guitarist and songwriter Plaskett, bassist Chris Pennell and drummer Dave Marsh—appear mellow and relaxed. With them are Plaskett’s father Bill; opening act, multi-instrumentalist and longtime friend Peter Elkas and Gordie Johnson, Emergency producer and former Big Sugar frontman.

The small group is thoroughly impressed with Johnson’s black Stetson and are trying to decide what chapeau styles each of them could pull off.

The Monday before the Alderney show, there’s a palpable buzz about Plaskett’s homecoming gig. He has three interviews scheduled this afternoon, and the announcement this week that Ashtray Rock is shortlisted for the Polaris Prize further fuels anticipation for the show and raises Plaskett’s profile around town.

“I would sooner try and exist in a small place and know everyone,” he muses, sitting in the Economy Shoe Shop on Argyle Street. “Like, just to have met everyone, so at some point they all just wave. That’s it. They don’t feel compelled to introduce themselves anymore. Everybody just waves to each other.”

It’s an interesting sentiment from Halifax’s most recognizable musician. And with his down-to-earth charisma, one gets the impression that he could actually follow through on his off-the-cuff remark. At the same time, a natural bashfulness comes through. When asked if he can speak about growing up in Lunenberg, Plaskett’s only stipulation is that his high school graduation photo isn’t printed with the story. “I just don’t like it,” he says, laughing.

Speaking with him in the Economy Shoe Shop, two sides to Plaskett’s personality become visible—the Plaskett who doesn’t want to offend, who wants to talk with each and every person that stops him on the street, and the Plaskett who values his privacy, his friends and his time with his wife Rebecca.

But the dichotomy of Joel Plaskett doesn’t end with his personal life. Ashtray Rock, which he describes as a “party record,” is probably the slickest, most commercial of the five albums he’s released since Thrush Hermit disbanded in 1999. At the same time, it’s artistically his most ambitious, a quality supported by his Polaris nomination alongside less mainstream fare like Junior Boys and Besnard Lakes.

Perhaps the record’s most direct comparison is British grime artist The Streets’ 2004 album A Grand Don’t Come for Free. “That’s a record,” he says, “when you listen to the whole thing, you follow the narrator and everything’s happening to him, it’s wicked.”

Sound familiar?

Despite its success, Plaskett says Ashtray Rock has polarized his fans. Some love the diverse array of songs and the emotional depth of the story. Others resent the frivolity of songs like “Drunk Teenagers.” (Detractors should rest easy though. The band made serious efforts to get Tone Loc to sing the breakdown of “Fashionable People.”)

“Music should be fun too,” he says. “So much stuff right now is so fucking melodramatic.”

Onstage at Alderney, Plaskett turns his homecoming gig into a party for his friends and family. The band comes onstage, mops in hand, wiping down their instruments before launching into a beefed up version of “Absentminded Melody” from La De Da. The Emergency is augmented by Johnson, beefing up the band’s sound as a second guitarist, and Elkas on keyboards.

In the wings is guitar tech Phillip Zwicker, guitarist for Air Traffic Control and a friend of Plaskett’s since elementary school in Lunenburg. Zwicker was playing guitar long before Plaskett and Bill points to him as a direct catalyst for his son’s interest in the instrument.

“He could do pyrotechnics on guitar,” says Bill of Zwicker’s playing.

Plaskett’s mother Sharon is in the audience, as are drummer Dave Marsh’s parents. “All my friends are in one place—I can see them both from here,” Marsh quips from the stage.

Bill joins his son on stage for two numbers, “Absentminded Melody” and “Love This Town.” Bill played guitar in a Cliff Richards and the Shadows cover band in England before immigrating to Canada in the 1960s. In the late ’70s he rediscovered his love of playing through British folk and, in the mid-’80s, helped found the Lunenburg Folk Festival.

Though this isn’t the first time Bill has joined Joel onstage, he’s flattered and honoured each time he’s asked. “What can I say?” he says. “It enables me the privilege and surreal opportunity to observe the following he has.”

Plaskett physically resembles his father—he’s tall, lanky and “a loper” according to Sharon. Both father and son apologize for their circumnavigational answers during their interviews.

“For me,” says Joel, “when I want to aspire to play something in genre, actually having him on board irons out my idiosyncrasies a little because I’m a lot more flighty as a guitar player.”

Plaskett’s upbringing was similar to the party he’s created onstage. There were always kids around the house. “I don’t think he was all that great on his own when he was little,” says Sharon. Plaskett was the kind of kid who loved to answer the phone when it rang.

“You might be surprised to know that he was quite a chubby baby,” says Sharon. “Joel at six months was the same weight he was at a year and a half. He just stretched out.” She says that before his sister Anna’s birth, she and Joel had what she calls “a very intense relationship.” When Plaskett was two-and-a-half years old, a friend of hers came to visit from Vancouver. “I think he was quite taken aback,” she says, “by my drawing my attention away from him.”

Plaskett’s music always comes across as very personal, and Ashtray Rock feels like his most personal record. But in interviews, Plaskett has made it clear that the record is not a literal translation of his adolescence. “I write autobiographically, but life is not cut-and-dried,” he says. “You can write something at a certain point and feel entirely different about it the next day. I want to present the actual real-life balance to the listener by putting it in a story.”

photo Scott Munn | October 16, 2003

Sharon takes it a step further. “Ashtray Rock—he never drank in high school,” she says, laughing. “Joel was a pretty clean-cut kid in most respects.” His mother says that as a child, Plaskett was obsessed with rhyming and nursery rhymes. “I listen to his lyrics,” she says, “and I see his playing around with words as coming from way back then.”Plaskett’s wife Rebecca Kraatz also finds her way to the stage this night. Wearing a yellow-and-orange rain jacket, she stands next to the sound board at stage right and watches the band rip through “Instrumental,” waiting for her spoken monologue.

A graphic artist, Kraatz is responsible for the covers of Plaskett’s In Need of Medical AttentionLa De Daand Ashtray Rock. Although the two only married last August, they first met on the set of Thrush Hermit’s “French Inhale” video shoot in 1994.

“I think she got a kick out of me and I was just really smitten with her,” he says. They struck up a long-distance friendship and eventually began a courtship that would last more than a decade. “She’s an amazing artist and really, really, funny, beautiful, idiosyncratic person,” says Plaskett.

“I think they complement each other in different ways,” says Sharon. “I’m very fond of her. She’s one of a kind.” Plaskett says his wife is “not a socialite.”

It’s apparent when Kraatz takes the mike. She remains in the wings, her back turned to the audience as she reads over the music. When she finishes, Plaskett touches his hand to his lips and then, extending his long arms, blows her a kiss from centre stage.

“They’re quite devoted to each other,” says Sharon, “and I like that.”

In the city where he has lived on one side of the harbour or the other for 20 years, Plaskett’s profile has been on an upward trajectory since he began playing Led Zepplin covers in his friend Rob Benvie’s garage with their pal Ian McGettigan in junior high school. Originally called Nabisco Fonzie, by 1992 they were gigging around town as Thrush Hermit.

photo Michael Tompkins | February 17, 2005Now, things are starting to break through to the masses. It’s not to say that fame is eclipsing Plaskett’s music or that he has screaming girls chasing him down the street. But things started to change after last year’s Juno Awards ceremony, held in Halifax.

“We played that outdoor Parade Square show and I had the Juno nomination and there was lots of press and stuff,” he says, “and it just seemed like all of a sudden that many more people knew who I was.”

Plaskett says that at last month’s White Stripes gig at the Cunard Centre, he was only able to watch half the show because people kept coming up to him, touching him, putting their arms around him and wanting photos.

As a music fan, Plaskett understands the desire to speak with someone whose work has connected with you, but at the same time, it’s difficult to deal with, especially when he’s with friends and family. He hopes that by talking about his growing celebrity that he can deconstruct it to the point where it’s no longer an issue.

“I’m trying to embrace that and demystify it as much as possible because I want to live here,” he says. “I don’t want to retreat but I kind of hope to demystify it a little bit or go, “Look, it’s not that big a deal, you’re going to see me again.’” But he’s also realistic about the situation. “It’s a small town,” he says. “You do anything long enough and everyone knows who you are.”

Peter Elkas met Plaskett at a Sloan gig at Concordia University in Montreal. Thrush Hermit was the opener. Elkas, 17 at the time, and his bandmates in the Local Rabbits were impressed with the young Haligonians and connected with what they were doing.

“They were four guys from the suburbs of Halifax and we were four guys from the suburbs of Montreal,” he says from his Dartmouth motel room. “They were so much like us. It was like looking into a bizarro mirror.”

Last year Plaskett had mentioned to Elkas that it was getting harder for him to walk down the street in Halifax. “You’re full of shit,” Elkas thought. But when Elkas played Keith’s Fest last October with the Emergency, he couldn’t believe the reception the local hero got. “He’s like Springsteen,” says Elkas.

He says that on the east coast there is a higher reverence for local talent, whereas in Montreal, his hometown, it’s the complete opposite, since “it wouldn’t be cool.” As for Toronto, everyone there is from somewhere else. “Sometimes I wish I was from here,” he says.

The Alderney show is a smashing success for the Emergency. Teenage girls rush to the stage during the power ballad “Tears Roll Down.” The crowd is filled with families. (One kid turns to his accompanying adult during “Nothing Left to Say” and reports, “He just said “fuck.’”) There are as many spiky-haired heads hiding behind popped collars as there are moppy-haired indie kids. But everyone is focused on the stage where Plaskett holds court.

The show ends with two encores. In the second, the band rips through the high school ode “Come on Teacher,” from 2003′s Truthfully Truthfully, one of the many Plaskett tunes which blend heartfelt nostalgia with idiosyncratic silliness. Just as they reach the bridge where Plaskett says “make it heavy metal now,” the band breaks into Big Sugar’s “Diggin’ a Hole,” which in turn morphs into Van Halen’s “Hot for Teacher.”

Like most things in Plaskett’s music, the song straddles the line between joke and homage.

“A lot of people who like my music like the superficial elements of it and some people really like the heartfelt elements,” he says. “I kind of want to embrace both.”

 

Rise’s Shine

This story originally appeared in the June 28, 2007 issue of The Coast.

Tim McIlrath remembers the advice Alexisonfire gave him two years ago: go to the Maritimes and they’ll love you forever.

“They get ignored and it’s not fair,” the band told him.

It’s something his band Rise Against experienced first-hand when the two groups toured here in the spring of 2005. “We met some really cool fans,” says McIlrath. He wants to make sure they keep coming back.

The Chicago hardcore outfit has reaped the benefits of touring Canada. Rise Against recorded its major-label debut Sing Sirens of the Counter Culture in Vancouver and the album eventually went gold here. Last year’s The Sufferer and the Witness went platinum.

The band was supposed to play the Flip the Switch festival at Alderney Landing in Dartmouth this week, but for reasons unknown to pretty much everyone, the show was cancelled at the end of May. That’s not stopping the band from rolling into town with Silverstein and Comeback Kid, hitting the Cunard Centre on July 2. Rise Against has toured with both bands in the past and lead singer/guitarist McIlrath enjoys the company a package like this one affords.

“It couldn’t be a better tour,” says

McIlrath on the phone from Philadelphia.

Unfortunately, New Jersey’s recently re-formed Lifetime—set to headline Flip the Switch—appear to be skipping Halifax altogether. “I saw Lifetime back in the day,” says McIlrath, “but I missed the boat.” He likes the melodic hardcore sound the band pioneered but he never really sank his teeth into its records during its ’90s heyday. (His bandmates did, however, and the group recorded a cover of “Boys No Good” as a European bonus track for their latest album.)

Melody is an important element in Rise Against’s music. McIlrath barks the vast majority of the band’s lyrics but somehow manages to find melody in the band’s no-frills sound. The songs are straightforward, to the point and, most importantly (and these days, most surprisingly), they stick in your head. It’s what separates the group from many of its hardcore brethren and most likely what helped attract Dreamworks Records in 2003. Although influences include usual punk luminaries such as Black Flag, McIlrath has an unabashed love for more tuneful pop fare. “From Journey to old Bon Jovi, Queen and Skynyrd,” he says.

Rise Against formed in 1999, but its members trace their musical origins back to the 1990s Chicago punk scene. McIlrath played in several bands with notable Chicago-area musicians, including current pop-punk poster boy Pete Wentz of Fall Out Boy. Bassist Joe Principe and Rise Against’s original drummer Mr. Precision formed the rhythm section for 88 Fingers Louie. After releasing two albums on mega-indie Fat Wreck Chords, Rise Against signed with Dreamworks. Inner label reshuffling eventually landed them with Geffen, which released Sing Sirens of the Counter Culture in 2004.

Band members were well aware of the major-label horror stories experienced by bands in their position. But McIlrath says the transition has been easy for the group, perhaps a symptom of the changing landscape of the record industry.

“The lines between major and indie labels are blurring,” he says. “There are independent labels that are as big as a lot of majors and the business practices of some indies are no better than their “corporate’ counterparts. Being on an indie doesn’t make you more ethical than a band on a major.” He admits he’d rather be associated with a major than certain unnamed indies.

People get the impression that bands on majors are constantly surrounded by a buzzing network of assistants, stylists and label execs, but this couldn’t be further from the truth, says McIlrath.

“We deal with a handful of people on an everyday basis,” he says. “It’s a very intimate relationship.”

Rise Against head to Europe with The Used in the fall. After a break in 2008, McIlrath says they’ll probably get down to working on a new record. Until then they’ll continue to tour North America through the summer.

“Thanks a lot to all our Canadian fans,” says McIlrath. “We can’t wait to get up there and play some shows.”


Feel the Love

This story originally appeared in the July/August, 2007 issue of Halifax Magazine.

Despite the genre’s long-term relationship with pop-music, even Jerry Granelli sees jazz as an isolated style these days. “It’s not played a lot,” he admits. Not that it bothers him. People are open to pretty much anything when it’s done well, he says. “Human beings can sense good music.” It’s what has enabled the 67-year-old drummer/percussionist to still be in the business after 50 years.

Granelli’s influence on popular music is far reaching. He was a staple in the early psychedelic San Francisco of the 1960s. His work with Light Sound Dimension, the audio portion of Bill Hamm’s liquid light experiments, helped set the improvisational tone of the scene. He logged studio time with Sly Stone and Glen Campbell, opened for the Grateful Dead and comedian Lenny Bruce, and helped pioneer the fusion of traditional jazz with world music and electro-acoustic percussion. Oh yeah, and he played in the Vince Guaraldi Trio, most notably on the Charlie Brown Christmas album. Granelli left his native San Francisco in 1976 and eventually settled in Halifax in 1988, becoming a Canadian citizen six years later. Drawn to the city through his Shambhala Buddhist beliefs, Granelli has been actively involved in both the local jazz and Shambhala communities since he arrived. In 1996 he co-founded the Creative Music Workshop, a two-week intensive music camp for students that runs in tandem with the Atlantic Jazz Festival. This wasn’t an entirely new experience for Granelli—he had taught previously in Seattle, Berlin, and Boulder, Colo. where he established the music department at the Naropa Institute. He sees the CMW as his way of giving back to a city that he has adopted as his own. “Halifax really does feel like my home,” he says. “I have very strong and lasting relationships here.”

The workshop has grown from 10 students in the first year to 41 in 2006. It’s unique in its inclusiveness of all styles of music. Granelli and other faculty members encourage their students to incorporate the jazz tradition of improvisation into pop music forms in order to break down the stylizing of artists. “If you exclude this music and tradition, it cuts down the student’s vocabulary,” he says. They don’t just teach technique, says Granelli, it’s experience that students learn. “We help them to learn how to learn. Music has to be passed along, otherwise it will die.”

The workshop culminates with the students performing their original compositions on the final night of the festival. Though Granelli says the looming prospect of live performance invokes terror in many of his protégés, he emphasizes that it’s just another day in the workshop. It’s about the process and the fruition of the product. Jeff Torbert won last year’s Galaxie Rising Star Award, which is given annually to the student who has shown the most promise over the course of the workshop. The 24-year-old has taken part in CMW four times: once as a pianist when he was 15, and as a guitarist the past three years. His profile both as a solo artist and with his group, TFC, was given a boost by the award and the experience of attending the workshop itself. “It’s the center of my life education,” he says. “It’s been a profound experience for me. If there’s any drawback it’s just that it’s two weeks of the year.”

Granelli and the rest of the faculty, which includes members of his band, V16 (featuring his son, J. Anthony Granelli, on bass), are now looking to move the workshop beyond the festival. They want to establish a permanent location to offer their listening, improvisation, and performance courses year round. Nova Scotia has rich musical traditions and Granelli feels that permanent workshops would help foster the province’s up-and-coming jazz musicians.

Jazz is a way of life for Granelli, and he has no plans to slow down his work schedule. The day after we spoke he was off to Alberta for a week to teach at the Banff Centre for the Arts. V16’s second recording, the double live album The Sonic Temple: Monday and Tuesday, was recorded during their shows at the Sonic Temple recording studio at last year’s Atlantic Jazz Festival, and was released this spring. The band returns this year as the opening act for revered guitarist Bill Frisell. Despite all of Granelli’s brushes with fame he remains humble, something he tries to pass on to his students. “If you don’t love it, do something else,” he says, “because it’s too hard otherwise.”

 

Electronic Rebellion: Max Tundra

This story originally appeared in the July/August 2007 issue of Halifax Magazine.

Max Tundra’s music is like Rubik’s Cube—just when you think you’ve got it sorted, a misplaced green square buggers it all to hell. The brainchild behind the music is U.K. native Ben Jacobs who, although often accused of being one, insists he is not an electronic artist. He’s been at too many boring shows where the DJ is standing at the decks chatting on MSN Messenger or playing Tetris to want that label.

“I listen to so much dreary music,” says Jacobs. “In England it’s all around you.” Even while on hold with Jacobs’ mobile phone company, you’re stuck listening to mope rockers Coldplay and Keane. “My music is a rebellion against that.”

Jacobs plays all the instruments on his records and split vocal duties with his sister on his most recent L.P., Mastered By Guy at the Exchange. He also injects a dry sense of humour that’s missing in a lot of electronic music, such as using Van Halen synth riffs in a remix or begging filmmaker Michel Gondry to direct a music video for him in “Gondry.” Though not a jazz artist by the traditional definition, Jacobs’ improvisational and experimental attitude to his live show should translate well to more adventuresome audiences. His instruments of choice? “Whatever the promoter has provided for me.”


Even Song

This story originally appeared in the June 14, 2006 issue of the Coast

Ian MacKaye, punk rock God, is fixing his rose trellis. It stood in his backyard in Washington, DC, for years, but now the weight of the vines has snapped the wood. MacKaye still wants to try and salvage it, so he’s outside when I call, trying to decide if it’s a lost cause. He apologizes for the distraction and walks inside the house, the original headquarters for Dischord Records, the label MacKaye started with friend and bandmate Jeff Nelson 25 years ago.

While he washes the dirt off his hands from the yard work, he makes small talk. MacKaye speaks quickly, with precision and the strongest sense of conviction I’ve ever encountered. He tells me that roses are a metaphor for life—the flowers are beautiful but the vines will prick you.

Ian MacKaye is a punk rock legend to the point where it’s become a cliche to say it. He fronted hardcore heroes Minor Threat, helped create the emo genre with Embrace and led the post-hardcore revolution in Fugazi. When Fugazi went on hiatus in 2002, many critics and fans thought this could be the musical end for the then-40-year-old. And when MacKaye resurfaced three years later with new band The Evens, the same people saw the guitar-and-drums combo as MacKaye going gently into that good night. But for MacKaye, volume doesn’t necessarily equal power.

“People associate a drop in volume as a mellowing,” he says. Shows where people are forced to listen to the band, rather than shout over them, offer a far more powerful performance for both parties, he says. “It’s way more punk. It’s so confrontational.”

The Evens began the way most things in MacKaye’s life do—organically. He and Amy Farina, formerly of the Warmers, began jamming together in 2001 in between Fugazi tours. Normally MacKaye tries not to get involved playing with other bands, because he doesn’t have the time. But the collaboration proved fruitful.

“It was so effortless working together,” he says. “A musical conversation developed.”

The jamming continued for the next three years until 2004 when they decided to play a few shows together, eventually recording their self-titled debut in 2005. The Evens released their second record, Get Evens, last year.

Never one concerned with image, MacKaye makes no apologies for the very “un-punk” horticulture in is backyard, or that someone is coming to fix his furnace in the afternoon. It would be easy to latch on to the suburban middle-ageness of all this and call him over-the-hill. MacKaye has certainly accomplished enough in his musical career to pack it in and concentrate on running Dischord. But that’s not an option.

“Music played an intimate and intense role in my life,” he says. “It’s something that’s really important to me.”

The music MacKaye cut his teeth on in his early teenage days is what shaped him into who he is today. And he doesn’t look back on the music of his youth as a joke—Ted Nugent’s Double Live Gonzo! was a particular favourite. “It’d be hard,” he notes, “to find somebody that I have less in common with now.”

It’s not comforting nostalgia, but he contends that to this day he’ll defend them from any detractors.

“Music provides the opportunity for incredible moments, transformative moments. Things are revealed to you as a young listener,” he says. “And because you don’t know any better you accept them.”

Though MacKaye’s music has been pervasive in underground circles since the early ’80s, recently it has made some peculiar inroads to the mainstream. Nike infamously used the cover photo from Minor Threat’s self titled 7-inch for a skateboard demo flyer, digitally changing the image and logo. But even more surprising was when Fugazi’s song “Waiting Room” was added to the Washington Redskins playlist, blaring across FedEx Field during games. Despite outcries from some fans, MacKaye doesn’t let himself get bothered by these things—in fact, he kind of likes it.

“If our music, or our ideas pop up, it means that there are still open channels to the surface,” he says. “That’s encouraging to me.”

Those Kids Will Get You in Trouble

The Red Light Sting are one of Vancouver’s greatest musical assets. Much like The Beatles did in the early sixties, the group has been able to absorb the sounds of today’s underground and convert them into a unique style. Beyond their music, band members Andy and Zoe run Ache Records whose catalog boasts releases from Hot Hot Heat, Death From Above and Radio Berlin, just to name a few. I had the privilege to talk to all five band members (vocalist Greg, guitarist Andy, keyboardist Zoe, bassist Jeff and drummer Paul) after their show at North Vancouver’s Selwynn Hall.

DiSCORDER: So I guess we’ll start at the beginning. How did you guys all hook up and form the Red Light Sting?

Greg: Well, the three of us were in a band
Zoe: He’s not going to know who you’re talking about.
Greg: Oh, okay. [Laughs] Andy, Zoe and I were in a band called Hooray for Everything, and our original bassist Matt was in a band with me called The Self Esteem Project, we had the same drummer in both of those bands, but then he moved to Saskatoon so that kind of broke up both of the bands I was in, so I was kinda angry and writing kinda angry songs. Then I wanted to work with this guy again… this guy being Andy. And then this guy, Paul, was in d.b.s. with Andy and then Andy showed him some stuff that we were working on and he was like, “I want in on that.” Then we needed a keyboard player cause I was originally going to play keyboards, but then we realized that I couldn’t play keyboards and then we figured out Zoe could. So Zoe played keyboards.
Andy: And somewhere along the way we picked up this jerk…Jeff. [Laughs]
Jeff: They asked me to join about a year ago through a bunch of confusing emails.
Greg: It seems like so much longer.
Andy: How long ago was that?
Jeff: It’s a year.

Most of you guys are in other bands or doing your own thing. What was it about The Red Light Sting that made it the priority?

Andy: I don’t think it was a decision anywhere along the way, it just sort of happened. d.b.s. and The Red Light Sting overlapped a little bit. Me and Paul were in both for a few months I guess and then d.b.s. broke up, so pretty much all my time and energy went into The Red Light Sting. And from there I’ve had side projects. But my side projects don’t really involve practicing or playing the guitar in any way so it’s an entirely different thing.

Do you find it difficult to write in a band with so many creative people?

Andy: No. That’s what makes it easy. We don’t even have to do anything. We just turn on our amps….
Greg: …and the songs write themselves. I haven’t heard it before…is this a cover song?
Andy: Paul just clicks, he counts in and we just start playing something and it always works out well.

Where do you come up with your ideas for the lyrics? They’ve always struck me as being like an excerpt from a book.

Greg: They’re actually directly taken from books. [Laughs]
Andy: Almost all of them are from Stephen King.
Greg: That’s fucking weird, I was going to say “Stephen King’s It.” [More Laughs]
Andy: Wicked dude!
Greg: But no, anyways…what were we talking about?
Zoe: Where you come up with your lyrics.
Greg: They’re just there for the most part. We’ll bring in the song and I’ll have a couple of ideas for what I want to talk about. I’ll focus on one area at first and just kind of repeat that over and over. And then I’ll establish the theme kind of and then just base it around that. That’s a pretty boring answer. [Laughs]

I’ve noticed on your website you have links to a bunch of other bands’ sites and almost all of them have managed to become sort of buzz bands recently. You guys obviously have good taste in music.

Andy: Well, most of those bands are our friends. We don’t put links up for just any band. Yeah, it is weird that most of our friends’ bands got popular and we didn’t. [Laughs]
Greg: I wonder why?
Zoe: We don’t like to just put links to anyone. We try to keep it small, to just the stuff we respect or our friends…and we also respect what they do.
Andy: I don’t respect any of my friends actually…especially these guys.

Has it been kind of weird with Hot Hot Heat’s success recently?

Andy: It’s not really weird…it’s kind of interesting.
Greg: It hasn’t really affected us, I don’t think.
Zoe: We’re happy for them. They worked really hard.
Andy: It doesn’t really affect us in any way, it’s just an interesting thing to happen I guess.

You guys are working on a new record right?

Andy: Yeah, it’s done.
Zoe: Done recording.
Andy: Yeah, we’re just working on the artwork and stuff like that.

Why have you waited so long to put out a full–length LP?

Greg: We write really slowly.
Zoe: We didn’t want to. Initially we just wanted to do EPs.
Andy: We thought the kind of music we play didn’t work after forty minutes. That’s why we only play for fifteen minutes.
Greg: We just figured it would be too annoying.
Andy: But I think that we’ve done pretty good with this one because we kind of switched it up a little bit. I don’t think it gets boring…and it’s still pretty short.

How short is it?

Greg: Thirty minutes.
Zoe: Ten songs.

All of the Ache Bands have very distinctive album art. Where do you come up with the ideas?

Andy: Well, The Red Light Sting stuff we all design together. We all sit around and come up with an image or one of us brings in an image. Greg brought in the psycho image for the cover of the split and I brought in the photo of the mannequin for the next one.
Greg: The third one [Our Love is Soaking in It] was like a still from a movie that the guy that runs Sound Virus did. It’s just like this scene of his grandma smoking so we all thought that looked pretty cool.
Andy: We hired a design team from London to do the album art for our full–length.

Pulling out all the stops for this one?

Andy: Yeah. No holds barred. We also got Paul McCartney to play a song on this one. [Laughs]

What?

Greg: He plays three tambourines…all at the same time.
Andy: You might call him the tambourine man!

Where did the idea for Ache records come from?

Zoe: Hot Hot Heat was playing around and we really liked what they were doing but they only had a demo, and Andy had just gotten a new job where he had extra money and thought, “Hey, maybe I’ll start a record label,” because nobody was putting out their records. So he did that, but then he needed some help, so I ended up putting in some money and helping. We did the Hot Hot Heat record and then The Red Light Sting was starting out, so we did the split. Now it’s a lot more like a business.
Andy: Originally, we didn’t know where we were going with it. It was like, “Hey maybe we’ll do a split with Hot Hot Heat, that’d be cool,” and then d.b.s. broke up and I was like, “Oh we’ll release the last songs that we recorded.” Then suddenly we were like a real label.
Zoe: Now it’s really busy. We both have day jobs, but it takes up the rest of our spare time when we’re not practicing.

You’ve got the Divorce series coming out now too?

Zoe: Yeah, that’s coming up, as well as the Kid Commando full–length, Femme Fatale full–length, Secret Mommy LP and Piers Whyte EP, so we’re really busy.

Finally, how would you describe The Red Light Sting’s sound?

Greg: Awesome.
Zoe: We are like totally awesome.
Andy: I would call it incredible.
Greg: Are you going to elaborate on that?
Zoe: Sebastien from Death from Above told me that our new record was very eclectic and thinks that it should be filed under world music. So I hope that’s a good definition.
Greg: Awesome, eclectic world music…The Red Light Sting. Somewhere between Maxi Priest and Megadeath.

This story originally appeared in the November 2003 issue of Discorder Magazine.

Death From Above

Upon first listen, Death From Above could be best described as a wall of sound. The duo’s heavy bass and drums sound kicks out the jams with skull–crushing abandon. However, beneath the turbulent storm lies an inherent sense of melody. Indeed, Death From Above’s sound is far more calculated than a casual listen lets on. “I always wanted to write songs on bass,” explains bass player Jesse F. Keeler. “All electronic music, all jungle, all house, all hip hop, all everything is bass and drums. Something that I really love about house music: is that it’s so difficult to be creative in the confines of the format. You can’t mess around with the time, you can’t mess around with all kinds of stuff. We have to be creative in a simple way, so having only two instruments and still being creative is a challenge.”
As a result of being faced with this daunting task, Death From Above have created one of the most efficient sounds in music. In a short fury of sound, the band’s songs leave little space for the listener to reflect on what they have just heard. Yet each song stays with you long after the record is over. Though at a loss for a description of their sound, Keeler feels that Death From Above’s style can be inferred from the diversity of their fans. “We have twelve–year–old kids that want us to autograph everything. I autographed a Billy Talent t–shirt two days ago. We have Hell’s Angels that liken us to AC/DC and Motorhead. They listen to Death from Above at the Hell’s Angels clubhouse in Toronto. We have nerds that love it, and girls that look like they put on everything in their mom’s closet…they love it too. We have serious rap guys from Scarborough and Toronto coming to our shows that want us to do backing music. I guess the reason that it’s so hard to describe our sound is because there’s so many weird and disconnected groups of people that all seem to get something out of it.”
According to Sebastion Grainger, the group’s drummer and lead vocalist, songwriting for a band like Death From Above is relatively easy. “The good thing about being a two–piece is that when things are in the theoretical stage they’re not that far from being practical because it just takes an idea and we go and do it. There’s not a lot of discussion involved and it’s not too complicated. The dynamic is pretty easy.” Adds Keeler, “Some of our songs were written literally in minutes, music–wise anyway, the lyrics take longer. But sometimes the lyrics flow pretty fast too. We’re really comfortable playing with each other and it’s not hard to write, it’s just a question of finding the time.
Death From Above’s lyrics are as passionate and intense as their music, filled with references to failed relationships and a sense of carrying on in life. “Those lyrics were written in a specific period of my life,” explains Grainger. “I was seeing a lot of my friends changing. There was sort of a metamorphosis amongst my group of friends. I was observing a lot of politics within friendships and it ended up sounding really emo, I guess. The duo’s debut EP Heads Up opens with the particularly scathing “Dead Womb” which includes the line “so tired of sluts coming to us in the clubs with their cocaine.” The club it references is one that Keeler used to DJ at. Keeler recalls that “[The club] was awesome if you were one of those people, but it was really shitty if you’re one of us.” Grainger elaborates, “We would see a lot of people who were constantly making bad decisions. At the time I was getting seriously involved with my girlfriend, and I was just so sick of seeing shitty girls being shitty and acting shitty, and I was just so happy that I didn’t have to deal with that because I’d found someone who was the antithesis of it.
Though hailing from Ontario, Death From Above are signed to local independent label Ache Records, run by The Red Light Sting’s Andy Dixon and Zoe Verkuylen, with whom Death From Above played their first shows. The label is also home to Keeler’s other band Femme Fatale. “I just told them that me and Sebastien have something else going which was more in theory than it was in practice,” he explains. “We made some three track recordings sent it to them…and they said, ‘We’ll do a record for you.’”
Like most things about Death from Above, the artwork for Heads Up is strikingly different. The cover is simply a sketch of Keeler and Grainger’s heads with elephant trunks where their noses should be. The elephant imagery comes from Keeler’s original concept of the band’s sound. “You know the Sonic Youth song called ‘Scooter + Jinx’ from Goo? I always thought that it sounded like elephants. The bass sound that we have, when I was first fucking around with it, that’s when I was like, “Wow, this kind of sounds like elephants,” and I like elephants anyway.
When asked about the possibility of a full–length LP, Grainger explains that “At this point we just want to give people little tastes.” Keeler goes on to explain that Heads Up “is a really time specific record for us. I don’t like the idea of writing songs over the course of a two year period and then putting them all on one record. Maybe not musically, but emotionally for me I’d like it to be more cohesive.”
Anxious Death From Above fans will be happy to hear that the band will remain active touring in the foreseeable future, and has new material on the way. “We’re doing a short EP [on Sound Virus] with remixes and stuff as well, and we’re constantly working on new material, as often as we have a chance,” says Grainger. Keeler adds, “The only thing that frustrates us about being on tour right now is that I don’t have time to just sit down with my bass and play.

This story previously appeared in the December/January 2003/04 issue of Discorder Magazine.

Fables of the Reconstruction

This story originally appeared in the September, 2003 issue of Discorder Magazine.

The Weakerthans are a Canadian band. Not in the sense that they are ignored elsewhere on our continent (The Tragically Hip), not in the sense that they move south to pursue greater success (Finger Eleven), and not in the sense that they play big shows sponsored by Molson Canadian (Theory of a Nickel–Fault). They are Canadian in the way that they sound like Canada. Lead singer and guitarist John K. Samson’s voice evokes a sense of warm isolation that typifies life on the Canadian prairies. “We write the only songs we know how to write,” explained Samson in one interview, “songs that reflect the place we come from musically and geographically, the community we live in and the struggle for any one person to connect with another in a meaningful way.”
Hailing from Winnipeg, Manitoba, the band is comprised of veteran Winnipeg musicians including Samson who played bass in the legendary Propaghandi for five years and bass player John P. Sutton who has recorded “every Winnipeg punk band.”
The Weakerthans have managed to combine elements from their hometown’s two most famous musical exports: the breathy vocal stylings of Neil Young and the driving guitar rock of Randy Bachman. These influences are once again a prominent fixture on the group’s third LP Reconstruction Site. Bass player John P. Sutton in conversation via telephone from Toronto describes the album in typically modest fashion as, “On par with the other albums. The songwriting is basically the same idea, its the same group of boys writing the songs so it doesn’t stray too far off from anything that we’ve done before, but at the same time I think we put a ton of thought into it. It seems like we worked and worked and worked at these songs and hopefully that comes across.” The hard work does come across. The record boasts a cleaner (but not slick) production and much tighter or “cohesive” songwriting. Lyrically Samson took “a bit of a left turn” according to Sutton, moving away from the futon revolutionists of old into more “peculiar” territory with songs such as “Psalm for the Elks Lodge Last Call” and the first single, “Our Retired Explorer (Dines with Michel Foucault in Paris 1961).”
Reconstruction Site and its first single are accompanied by a new video. Set in the Antarctic, the band dances around with fake penguins among other things. Though unintentional, the video comes off as surprisingly humourous, somewhat of a change from a group that are often perceived as being quite serious artists. “I think we probably come across as quite a serious, straight–ahead rock band. Listening to the records you don’t really catch a lot of humour in there. I think there’s a bit more humour in the lyrics on this new album, but there’s also a lot of the same serious, heavy lyrics. We’re humourous people, I would think. We’re always joking around and we’re always having fun together. It’s good to make a video that brings out that side of us.”
The lyrical and visual turns are not the only change being ushered in by the new album. Reconstruction Site is being released on independent heavyweight Epitaph Records. “[Epitaph] is a great scene. Everyone was just so excited about their job and about music and it just seemed like a really great fit for us.” Sutton is quick to point out that relations are still good with the group’s old label G–7 Welcoming Committee, who still handles the group’s back catalogue. The move to Epitaph was motivated by a desire to consolidate the business side of the group. At one point Weakerthans albums were being distributed by no less than five different labels, making things exceedingly difficult to keep track of. The move was an issues of control. With Epitaph, Sutton explains, the band can now “walk into a studio, record an album without a record label, own the masters and just say ‘we want to sell it to somebody now. It’s our record, and we want to hold the rights and let’s find somebody to license it from us.’”
Control on the business side of the industry seems to be a key issue to bands these days. Internet piracy, according to the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), is apparently the scourge of the industry. It threatens artists from the top down. However, Sutton doesn’t quite see things this way. “I have my own issues around it. I have my own rules that I make. I don’t feel that opposed to downloading major label music or bands that are long gone, like band from the 70s or 60s.” He goes on to point out that “it has so many elements to it. A lot of people have already downloaded our new record and when we played in London, England, it was evident that there were a lot of kids out there that knew the words to the new songs. On the one hand that’s pretty cool. They’re coming to the show and probably buying a t–shirt. They’re just so into it that they had to get the record before it came out. For a band of our size it’s not that big of a deal. Sure we may lose a few CD sales here and there but ultimately these people are liking it, hopefully, and they’re coming out to the show. As long as people listen to the music and like it that’s sort of the main thing.
The release of Reconstruction Site will see the Weakerthans embarking on a “trans–continental expedition” that includes two shows in Vancouver on September 10 and 11 at the all–ages Mesa Luna and the Commodore Ballroom, respectively. “[Touring] is everything you can possibly think of. Somedays are so fun, and some shows are so great and other days you just don’t want to get out of bed. It can be anything.” says Sutton. “I’ve done every possible extreme on tour, from having a perfect day to breaking down in the middle of nowhere and freezing or sweating to the point where you just want to pass out. You know some shows you just get up there and the last thing you want to do is play a show but you gotta do it… its something I really enjoy.” The all–ages show is a conscious attempt by the band to allow younger fans to come and see them. “We’ve been doing that for a few years now. We try to do that in most of the bigger cities in Canada and the U.S. We just find that we all grew up in the punk rock world and our best experience of seeing bands has been at all–ages shows. I really like all–ages shows. I go to them all the time still. I would feel weird if we were going to a city and a lot of the kids couldn’t come out.”
The Weakerthans continue to spread the word on life on the Canadian prairies. But will this unique experience be lost on the new audiences that wider distribution will surely bring? Who knows? Go see them, though. They’re really good, eh? •
The Weakerthans play Mesa Luna on Wednesday, September 10 and The Commodore on Thursday, September 11. Reconstruction Site is in stores now.