Q&A with Metric’s Josh Winstead

Four years ago, Metric burst onto the indie music scene along with a slew of young Canadian bands no longer content to be another Can-Rock clone (big in Canada, unheard of anywhere else). Like the Arcade Fire, Death From Above 1979, and anyone remotely associated with Broken Social Scene, Metric took the indie world by storm. This past year has been one for Metric side projects like lead singer Emily Haines’ beautifully morose record, Knives Don’t Have Your Back, and the hard-rocking, Best Friends In Love, by bassist Josh Winstead and drummer Joules Scott-Key under their Bang Lime guise. Metric recently reconvened to begin writing their hotly anticipated new record and are going back on tour to road test the new tracks. They return to Halifax September 14 for a show at The Cunard Centre. Ian Gormely spoke with Josh Winstead in late August.

 

IG:Are you in Toronto right now?

JW: No, we’re in New York City.

 

IG: What are you doing down there?

JW: Joules and I are playing in Bang Lime and we had a Brooklyn show last night. We have a Manhattan show today.

 

IG: How are the Bang Lime shows going?

JW: They’re going really well. Last night was so much fun, I can’t even believe it. It was mind-blowingly fun.

 

IG: Is Bang Lime headlining its own tour?

JW: Sometimes. Some places nobody knows who the hell we are. But last night was our show. Tonight’s…we’re not headlining tonight.

 

IG: What made the Brooklyn show so great?

JW: The vibe was just really great. The place was beautiful and the people that came out were really fun. We’re living here and there were a lot of people I haven’t seen in a long time. There were some people that didn’t even know we were playing that just showed up and didn’t know it was us. All the guys from TV on the Radio were in the other room and they were listening through the walls. And they were like, “Let’s go check out this band, they’re really good.” And then they were like, “Hey, wait a minute. I know those guys!” It was really fun and it was a nice surprise because we’ve known them for a long time. It’s been good to watch each other grow with different projects. It was just one of those nights that I’ve been waiting for, for a long time. You write music and you’re excited to play for your friends and strangers. Brooklyn’s such a musical town that the people who didn’t know us were really great and the people that did know us were great also.

 

IG: How did the Bang Lime project come about?

JW: Joules and I have played together for a huge number of years, so we’ve played in every band together. There was a need to let out some ’60s rock-driven stuff. When there’s down time I’m always writing music. I was like, “Look, I’ve got all these songs. Let’s make this happen.”

 

IG: Will that ’60s rock vibe come out on the new Metric album?

JW: I don’t think so. We were doing this thing for a while and we were just taking influences from places. Maybe it will a little bit, but not the heavier side of it, more the songwriter’s side. The new Metric stuff is really exciting. The four of us have been writing a lot together. We each pull in different directions. We actually verbally do it: “Think about this time in music. Let’s mix it with another one and push it towards the future.” The writing’s been really fun.

 

IG: Is the album going to be self-produced again? [Guitarist James Shaw recorded and produced Metric’s last album Live It Out in his own studio]

JW: I don’t think so. We were demoing tracks and giving people options if they want to hear it. I don’t really know yet. We haven’t reached that stage of finalizing that idea.

 

IG: How far into the recording process are you?

JW: Nothing’s recorded. We demoed it so we’d remember what the hell we were doing. There’s so much stuff going on in everyone’s lives that it’s really good to remember it and you can sit back and listen to it. But nothing’s recorded in the sense of finalized tracks. We try to record demos in the highest quality we can so if we do want to use it we can, but nothing’s finalized in that way either. There are a lot of songs written, let’s put it that way.

 

IG: In the collaboration process, you’re actually writing face to face in the studio?

JW: Yeah.

 

IG: Do you find it intimidating?

JW: Oh no. We’ve played together so many times, and been in so many weird situations. We’ve seen each other so high and so low. If we’re going to try and bust each other now and try to hurt each other’s feelings, we should know that now so this thing can end. But it’s not like that at all. Everyone’s really supportive of each other.

 

IG: Is Metric hitting the road again to try out some of the new songs in a live setting?

JW: Absolutely. That’s exactly why we’re doing it. We want to let the kids tell us what they think. We’ve never had this opportunity before, of being able to do this in between the recording and the touring. Before it was always like, record and we’re playing the last album and we’re not playing the new stuff and nothing’s finished. Now we’ve got this large amount of time that we’ve been given and we’re using it to see what they think.

 

IG: Do you gauge it on audience reaction or do you get the opportunity to get out and talk to fans?

JW: Both, absolutely. Everyone’s always recording things on cell phones—there’s a few things that ended up on YouTube already. So you get to see the reaction from stuff like that. You get to watch them react and see if it becomes introspective or if they start dancing and stuff like that. And then afterwards, we’re always hanging out. We’re not the hardest band to find. You wait around 20 minutes and then all of a sudden, there we are. It’s a little hard for Emily because people tend to mob her a little bit. It’s kind of a bummer because she really likes hanging out with people, but there’s just getting to be too many of them. She has to hide away a little bit until it cools down. But for me, Joules, and Jimmy, it’s really easy to go out. Everyone’s always like, “Where’s Emily?” It’s like, “Oh yeah, she has to hide.” It’s a sad thing actually.

 

IG: Do you enjoy the level of recognition you’re at? People who recognize you are most likely fans of the band whereas Emily is more recognizable outside of Metric.

JW: Right, you can see her in magazines. She’s really beautiful as well so everyone’s always photographing her. I’ve never had any other type of recognition, so I don’t know. I don’t know if I’d like to be stared at all the time if I was a super-famous person, that doesn’t sound like a good deal. But it’s fun.

 

IG: As the new tracks are right now, is there a unifying theme or vibe to the record?

JW: Yeah. Like a futuristic space. We’re trying to add a space element to the past. But that’s only in a few dancey songs we’ve got going on. Again it’s got a wide range of places that it’s going.

 

IG: In the past Metric has said that it really wants to grow as a band. Is this album a step forward for the group?

JW: Absolutely. But everyone’s doing that all the time. That’s another reason Emily did the Soft Skeleton [Haine’s backing band on her solo record Knives Don’t Have Your Back] stuff and Joules and I are doing Bang Lime and Jimmy’s producing people now. We really do not want to be a one-trick pony. It’s not even about being successful, it’s about being happy, about being proud of the things you’ve done in your life because that’s what we’re doing—we’re living.

 

IG: Various members have said that they really want Metric to appeal to the masses. Where does this desire come from?

JW: I think that’s the things about being able to communicate, and understanding people and understanding yourself. If you’re having a conversation with somebody and they don’t know what you’re talking about, it’s a one-sided conversation. It might be because you know things that they don’t know, and you have to bring them up to speed. Or it might be because you’re talking gibberish and people don’t want to listen to what you’re saying. It’s not that not being understood is a bad thing. There’s something interesting in an ability to look at what you’re involved in, who you’re involved with, and try to figure out how to communicate with them. Music is called the beta language, verbal speaking is the alpha language. It’s about communication and being able to relate.

 

IG: Is there a band or musician that you look to as having the ideal career?

JW: No, not really. Not just one person. There are too many amazing musicians out there. It’s just musicians in general and artists in general. It could be anybody at all.

 

IG: Metric just re-released its first album, Grow Up and Blow Away, which was recorded before you and Joules joined the band. Will you be playing any of those songs live?

JW: We’ve been playing a couple tracks live already. After Bang Lime finishes, we’re going to go and have a couple days rehearsal and see what songs we all want to play. We had the idea of letting people vote on what they want to hear. We’ll give them a choice. Hopefully that’s still happening, because I really like the idea of getting people to vote on what they want to hear. We’ll see. We were trying to figure out how to do that on the Web.

 

IG: Is there any aspect of the band that gets overlooked when people talk about Metric?

JW: Not really. With the four members, everyone always gets their due. In fact, everyone always talks about how great Emily is, how great Jimmy is, how great Joules and I are, the rhythm section. That’s kind of lame saying how great we are. I’m just talking about in terms of praise; obviously people have issues with us as well—they don’t like certain things. But on the praise side of things, it seems like everyone gets their dues and musically, everything’s really represented. It seems really balanced.

 

IG: Last fall Metric played their first ever show in Halifax. How did it go?

JW: I’m really excited to come up there. I really enjoyed it last time. We had a really fun time.

 

IG: People here tend to really appreciate it when bands come through town.

JW: It’s something about living far away from a major city. It’s weird because most bands are like, “I don’t want to go there, the people are weird…” No. You go there, people are amazing and they’re really respectful. And they’re appreciative that you’re there and that you took the time to come out there.

This interview originally appeared on Halifax Magazine’s website in September of 2007.  

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
 

 

You can’t put your arms around a memory

First off, this story about Johnny Thunders is one hundred percent true. In fact, there are pictures from the show and a conversation about this very story in the new last year’s “Nardwaur the Human Serviette vs. Bev Davies 2007 Punk Rock Calendar” (which you should all buy). Second, Carey Ott’s (the guy mentioned at the end of the profile) CD came out on tuesday  last year.  It’s really good and you should also buy it too (plus i got a shout out in the thank yous in the liner notes).

Boom, THAP Boom Boom THAP, Boom Boom Boom THAP … “LET’S GO!”

It’s 1964 and Gary Taylor is hammering out the beat on his drums. His band the Classics are the house band on the appropriately titled Let’s Go, the Vancouver segment of Music Hop, the Canadian Broadcast Corporation’s American Bandstand rip. As house band the Classics, a crack group of musicians, learned the latest tunes on the Top 40 to back up musicians appearing on the program or cover other artists hits for the kids watching at home.

For Taylor, the Classics offered him his first opportunity to help out other bands on their paths to either stardom, or the spaces between the footnotes of rock and roll history. It’s a role Gary relished and continues to play in his career.

Fast forward 40 years or so and Talyor no longer sits behind a drum kit. Instead he spends his time behind a large dark desk under a single light suspended from the low ceiling in his basement apartment in Coquitlam, British Columbia. A drum kit is one of the few things that can’t be found amongst the organized clutter that makes up Taylor’s office and home. Surrounded by stacks of papers, unopened cds, and remnants and relics from his club days, he sits, almost always, slightly reclined in his desk chair, his laptop computer in his, well, lap. He answers the phone abruptly, using short, curt phrases:
“GT here…hold on a minute (he quickly disposes of whoever is on the other line)…what’s going on my man?”

Music has been a constant for this tall imposing man whose built physique and energy level make people half his age jealous. He was inspired by the sports heroes he read about in Sports Illustrated as a young boy growing up with three brothers in Vancouver. Only a limp when he walks, the result of years spent playing various sports, betrays his 65 years.

He’s spent four plus decades in the music industry, as a musician, club owner and now artist’s manager. He’s clawed to the top and he’s fallen hard to the bottom, but it’s the fast paced back slapping/stabbing nature of the industry and his ability to bob and weave his way through for the glory of both his clients and himself that motivates him.

A more reasonable person, a more (but not completely) sane person, would argue that there are far more stable ways to run a career in the music business than Taylor has. In the late 1970s and early 1980s he ran Gary Taylor’s Rock Room on Hornby Street in downtown Vancouver. The main floor hosted touring international acts and up and coming locals while the downstairs had strippers (Wilt Chamberlain famously put in an appearance in the downstairs portion of the bar). He managed blues legend Long John Baldry after he was institutionalized for mental health problems. In the late 1980s he moved to Madison, Wisconsin and ran The Paramount, the city’s premier live music venue until violence in the club forced its closure. Now he manages small undiscovered artists in the Chicago and Nashville areas

Taylor remembers the time proto-punk legend and professional fuck-up Johnny Thunders was booked to play a pair of shows at the club in 1981. He had been detained at the US-Canada border after failing to display anything more substantial than a New York City library card for ID. Taylor made the 45-minute drive from the Rock Room down Highway 99, through what were then rural suburbs to the border crossing. He used what he calls “the GT charm” to convince customs officials to let the ex-New York Dolls guitarist into the country. Once back in town Taylor dropped Thunders at a hotel. When he returned several hours later he found Thunders lying in the hotel room bath tub with a needle puncturing his arm, blood spilling out onto his clothes and a journalist sitting next to him outside of the tub desperately trying to extract an interview from this shambolic mess of a man.

Why would Taylor put himself through antics like this? Because he thrives off the chase and believes in the artists and musicians he deals with (although, in the case of Thunders, the thought of telling an angry room of punk rockers that their hero would not be putting in an appearance was almost certainly a motivating factor as well). He thrives of the creative energies his clients feed him.

“Every time they write a new song it’s like a new baby,” he says.

His latest father-to-be, Carey Ott, gives birth to his debut solo album next Tuesday, January 23. Like many births it’s the culmination of a ten-year relationship between the two. Taylor began managing Ott’s old band Torben Floor in 1997.

So at 65, with most of his generation looking towards retirement, will this latest milestone be the end for Taylor? Hardly. He’s got a stable of artists in the waiting room, all ready to drop their next baby.

I *heart* 1995

This is a video called “Drugs” by Australian band Ammonia.

It’s about how drugs are boring.

For about two weeks in 1995 it was cool to wear a T-Shirt that looked like this to show that you were too cool to listen to Silverchair.

These kids were too “indie.”

I wasn’t one of them in case you were wondering. I was too busy listening to Bush X and Nickelback (who were in fact an independent band at the time).

Generation X…where art thou now?

So I had a great day at the usually crappy local record stores in town last week. I found the Pixies “Surfer Rosa” and “Doolittle” used on vinyl. Tres cool I know. But the weirdest thing was that when I went to take the “Surfer Rosa” record out of its sleeve, a piece of loose paper fell out with an uncredited, hand written review of the record from when it was originally released in 1988. Here it is in its entirety (typos are the writer’s):

Pixies – Surfer Rosa

The Pixies have created this new type of experimental – hillbilly – metal – disco – rock music. This is there second record and it becomes foggier and foggier of the point of each record.

“Come on Pilgrim,” the 1st record from this Boston-based band, was a collection of songs that had both little point and little credibility. The only possible advantages to it is that the album clocked a short 35 min., and the hope the the second album would be better.

It isn’t. Surfer Rosa is one of the most pointless and boring experimental albums of late. The songs are uninteresting, the themes are non-existant, the lyrics are incomprehensible, and the musicianship is nil. At the very least, this band is not together at all. I shudder at the thought of them live.

This album could have been so good for them. They have created this exciting musical style, but ruin it by their own self-indulgence into their inventions.

I’ll think you’ll find that one spin through “Surfer Rosa” will not deserve another. Let’s hope that the third album is either bettter or not created.

So there you go. “Surfer Rosa” is, apparently a piece of shit. Who knew?

Beeper

Some of you may have already seen/heard this track cause its been out for a while and linked to on like a million other blogs. But for those of you who haven’t, this is the new Count & Sinden video featuring gonna blow huge rapper Kid Sister (check out the track she did with fellow Chi-town native Kanye West here).

I think it’s yet another example of the amalgamation of dance, hip-hop and pop that has been ruling the clubs and iPods for the past couple of years – its both smart AND fun. enjoi…

 

Sleepless Walker

“I think we really have the Beatles to blame for that.”

There’s something you don’t hear every day. The Beatles are many things: influential, lauded, a cash-money machine—but rarely the subject of blame. To A.A. Wallace, lead singer and mastermind behind Halifax’s Sleepless Nights, it really is the Fab Four’s fault.

“It all comes from the way the Beatles were marketed in North America,” Wallace continues. “There was the cute one, the serious one, the stupid one…”

When Wallace started Sleepless Nights in 2003, he wanted to create a band that—in its structure—defied that marketing impulse. No matter who came and went from the group, everyone knew they were replaceable.

“The one problem that always seemed to happen was, when someone would leave they would feel you were slighting them or dissing them by continuing to play the material you had played when they were in the group,” he says. “They felt like they had some ownership over that, regardless of whether they had actually written the songs or not.”

The problem comes from attitudes in indie rock, according to Wallace. When a member of a band leaves, so goes part of a band’s identity. “That comes from marketing characters” within bands and not bands as single, unified entities, he says.

Even once-successful acts like the recently reformed Smashing Pumpkins catch flak when members leave or are excluded from reunions. This stands in stark contrast to metal bands in the ’80s, such as Iron Maiden, Judas Priest and Black Sabbath. These bands not only switched members, they replaced lead singers. “Even the Ramones. They’re all characters,” says Wallace. “They even changed their fucking names.”

Sleepless Nights have been home to more than 20 musicians over their five-year lifespan, Wallace estimates. The movement has been the result of differing priorities: For some band members jobs and school took precedence over music. “I don’t want to have a job or a degree. I just want to play in a rock-and-roll band.”

The revolving door of personnel and contributors has garnered Sleepless Nights frequent comparisons to Broken Social Scene, something Wallace understands but is quick to dismiss, pointing out that the groups started out at the same time but were unaware of each other. Because he’s remained the one constant, different rules perhaps apply to him. Wallace calls the shots, making Sleepless Nights less collaborative than Broken Social Scene.

“I personally wrote and arranged everything, except one song, that we’ve ever done,” he says. “Not that I feel like I own the material—people do contribute—but the thing is, the song will still exist whether they’re there or not.” For the group’s new record, Turn Into Vapour, the music took an unexpected pop turn. The album is tight, catchy and loud. “It’s being pegged as being a very upbeat kind of record but the content’s not at all.” Wallace says this came from touring the band’s last release, the Hands Up EP, and from the band wanting people to stop talking and pay attention during their sets. “Now we’re probably the loudest band in Halifax,” he says proudly.

The Sleepless Nights founder never writes with a concept or destination point, rather he puts out albums when he has enough material. Having a backyard studio helps speed the process—the next Sleepless Nights record is already completed. “We just have to wait to put it out because you can’t put out that many records at once,” Wallace says.

Despite his prolific output, he says he’s almost completely stopped listening to modern music and is, instead, looking to the past for new sounds. But what he really wants to do with his own work is to mash entire musical ideas and experiences into one mega-project, one burst of sound.

“I really want to do everything as one [big project] but it just doesn’t work right now. I wanna just make this one record that’s like ‘the album,’” he says, “but that’s a ways off yet. I don’t know how and I don’t know if anyone would like it.”

This story originally appeared in the February 28, 2008 issue of The Coast.

Black Mountain Climbs

“Bearded stoner-rock revivalists” and “heir to the throne of Led Zeppelin” are phrases often applied to Vancouver group Black Mountain. So it’s a bit of a surprise when keyboard player Jeremy Schmidt says he still holds down a day job at a department store. Picture a hairy rock god morphing into a well-groomed retail clerk in slacks and a blue vest, stocking shelves.

“[My boss] is pretty amenable to making it work,” says Schmidt of his juggled commitments. And that’s a good thing: Black Mountain released their second LP In The Future at the end of January and have plenty of touring ahead, which the band thrives on, according to Schmidt.

Black Mountain, the brainchild of singer-guitarist Stephen McBean, rose from the ashes of his former group Jerk With a Bomb. At different times, that band counted current Black Mountain members vocalist Amber Webber, bassist Matt Camirand and drummer Josh Wells among its ranks. In fact, Schmidt is the only member of the band who never played in Jerk With A Bomb. He joined Black Mountain just as the band was heading into the studio to record theirself-titled debut.

Since then, the Black Mountain Army has encompasses all the band members’ various musical side-projects, including McBean’s Pink Mountaintops, Camirand’s Blood Meridian and Wells and Webber’s Lightning Dust. But even the lines between side projects blur, as members end up on one another’s records.

The links between these groups run deep in another way: They’ve all recorded at The Hive Creative Labs in Vancouver. Schmidt says the decision to work there is an easy one. Besides being old friends, the guys that run the studio strive to record interesting and original bands. “They’ve built a repertoire on that premise,” he says. “It’s a big family [and] a family business.”

Schmidt says the intermingling of musicians is typical of Vancouver, a big city with a small, tightly woven community—much like Halifax. “There’s an affinity for one another’s music. We all just grew up listening to classic rock.”

Following the success of their first album, the band had a lot of options in front of them. They chose carefully. Tours with Coldplay and a spot on the Spider-Man 3 soundtrack exposed the group to a legion of new listeners.

As a result, expectations were high for the new record. But rather than jet-setting to a fancy studio in Europe, the band returned to their old stomping grounds at the Hive. The only major extravagance they indulged in was hiring the eclectic John Congleton to mix the record at “a buddy rate.” Congleton had previously worked with Modest Mouse and Explosions in the Sky, as well as The Roots and R. Kelly.

“He approached us,” says Schmidt. “We thought it might be kind of cool to work with someone who had mixed stuff we’re not used to.”

The result is a more textured effort, in which back-up singer Webber’s voice becomes a more prominent force in the band and Schmidt’s keyboards gain a presence too, floating in and out of the songs. With In the Future, the band isn’t about to shed the Led Zeppelin comparisons that greeted them early on, but the album may well establish Black Mountain as a priority—a collective with truly equal members—rather than another vehicle for McBean’s musical vision.

According to Schmidt, this comes from the group taking a more collaborative approach to writing songs. For the debut, McBean wrote most of the material before going into the studio—leaving Schmidt, for example, little room to work in his keyboards. This time out, Schmidt says he was more assertive in the studio and tried to create “a keyboard voice for the band.”

With all the attention sent Black Mountain’s way for its debut, it stands to reason the quintet might feel the weight of expectations while creating that mythic “sophomore effort.” Not so, says Schmidt. He sees the band members’ collective experiences in other groups as a source of strength and perspective benefitting the band. “We didn’t have…wide eyes about anything.”

This story originally appeared in the February 21, 2008 issue of The Coast.

Fortress of Youth

It’s often said you can’t judge a book by its cover. When it comes to music, you can’t judge a band from its album cover. Take Protest the Hero’s new record Fortress—in the foreground is a female goddess, arrows piercing out from her shoulder armour, her long flowing hair blowing out from under a helmet adorned with antlers. In the background, two symmetrical rams’ heads face away from each other while a glowing sun illuminates the entire scene. Most people would assume it’s some sort of punk or metal record, filled with crunching riffs and screaming vocals—and they’d be right.

Still, Rody Walker, Protest the Hero’s lead singer, defies the stereotype of the dark metal mind or the spit-and-venom-spewing punk. “I’m a big fan of Trek of all kinds,” says Walker from the band’s tour bus. Admitting the sci-fi series’ role as a tour time-killer, he says, “I feel like a real dork…”

TV habits aside, Walker and company (guitarists Luke Hoskin and Tim Millar, bassist Arif Mirabdolbaghi and drummer Moe Carlson) are like so many of Canada’s best punk and metal bands these days (think Billy Talent from Streetsville) in that they hail from suburban Ontario—in Protest the Hero’s case, Whitby.

Shortly after forming, and while still in high school in 2003, Protest the Hero released a debut EP, A Calculated Use of Sound. The band came to Halifax immediately after grad and gained a reputation for kinetic live performances and the hard political stances they took in their lyrics. The band’s debut full-length, Keiza, was released in 2005 on Underground Operations Records and soon caught the ear of Rich Egan, owner of mega-indie Vagrant Records, which released the album stateside.

The group has largely stopped writing about politics, lately favouring more literary-inspired concept records. Walker says the time he and his fellow band members spend on the road takes their attention away from global events. “We don’t have the right to preach a uniform political message,” he says. The singer also acknowledges the maturation of the band’s worldview following A Calculated Use of Sound. “There’s a common saying,” Walker begins, “when you’re 16 you’re a communist, at 20 you’re a liberal and at 45 you’re a conservative.”

When it came time to record Fortress last summer, Walker says there was “no plan…strictly action” in the studio. But he concedes there was some structure to the recording sessions. The starting point was the same as before—the dense lyrical concepts bass player and chief lyricist Mirabdolbaghi created. Once he penned the rough lyrics, the whole band wrote music around them. Walker came up with the (often screamed) melodies. Following this, the lyrics were reworked before the song was finished.

A new twist to the template came when Vadim Pruzhanov, of English power metal band Dragonforce, provided keyboards for the song “Limb from Limb.” The track inspired the band to start, according to Walker, “picking around with some synths” in the studio. Everyone felt the keyboards created an underlying fullness to the record and decided to include them on many of Fortress‘s tracks.

While many aspects of the band have evolved over the past few years, Walker’s onstage interactions with his fans have remained constant. He’s become well known for fostering an antagonistic relationship with audiences. During a gig in Utah, opening for Christian metal band As Cities Burn, Walker repeatedly told the crowd the headliners were in the back slaughtering goats as sacrifices to their heathen gods. The singer says it was his way of coming to terms with “the obligatory nature of the record industry.” He says that he can’t bring himself to do the typical “hello St. Louis” rock star thing, so he toys with the audience instead. “I’d rather have an entire audience mad at me.” But even Walker admits he can go too far. The last time Protest the Hero played Fredericton, for example, Walker took exception with the way some of the crowd was dressed and verbally abused them for it. And while he knows it was, perhaps, an error of judgement, if he has any regret he isn’t showing it. “Hey. Shit happens when you party naked.”

This story originally appeared in the February 14, 2008 issue of The Coast.

In-Flight Solo

Diana Ross. Michael Jackson. Gwen Stefani. They’re all artists who achieved success within a group and then leveraged that success to catapult themselves to superstardom.

In-Flight Safety’s Daniel Ledwell is about to join the ranks of these performers. He drops his first solo record, Two Over Seven, on January 29, with a show the next night as part of In the Dead of Winter festival. But where the above artists made conscious decisions to step out of the shadows and into the limelight, Ledwell is taking a more casual approach to his solo career. Call it the back-asswards, Phil Collins route to fame and fortune.

“It’s weird because over Christmas, I had to basically fabricate my solo career,” he says. “So basically right now all my press shots were taken by my brother, and my sister wrote my bio. It’s a big family affair.”
Ledwell had only played on his own a few times prior to documenting his compositions. “I decided to record the songs I was doing at home, and it’s turned into this.” He sent a secret internet link to mp3s of his songs to friends. One of them was singer Emm Gryner, who quickly saw the potential in the understated folk-country tunes and convinced him to release the songs on her label, Dead Daisy Records.
It might come as a surprise to some people that Ledwell is a formidable songwriting force. In-Flight Safety has always come across as the sum of its parts, with no one member standing out as the creative centre. This probably comes from the band’s rather all-inclusive writing style, in which members bring riffs and ideas to the group that are then worked out and arranged by the members. Lead singer John Mullane is really the only one who breaks this pattern when he pens lyrics and melodies to go with the music that’s already written.
Ledwell’s songs stand in marked contrast to the outward-looking, grandiose nature of In-Flight Safety’s work. “My songs are about simpler things than In-Flight Safety. They’re little heartbreak songs,” he says. “They’re written in a simpler way, more in my closed bedroom with my acoustic guitar.”
The seven-song EP is all Ledwell. He played every instrument on the record and, like with In-Flight Safety’s The Coast is Clear, designed the cover himself. “Unless it’s Rose Cousins singing, it’s me,” he says. All the songs are embellished stories from his own life, with the exception of “I Have Made You a Mixed Tape.” The stand-out track—which feels like a lost song from the Beautiful Girls soundtrack—examines themes of past glory and the sense of aimlessness many men have in their late 20s. “It’s just a story that I created about a broken-hearted guy who’s still living in the high school world,” says Ledwell. “His first girlfriend, he’s still chasing after her, even after all these years.” Ledwell seems somewhat apprehensive to discuss the more personal origins of his other songs.So with all focus squarely on him, is Ledwell worried about striking out on his own?”It was weird because I didn’t really plan on having it as a big release. I just wanted to make it. And now that there are interviews and things going on around it, I am kind of freaked out,” says Ledwell, adding that after playing in a group for the past two years, there is a sense of being musically naked while on stage alone.”It is weird because even when you’re up on stage you do feel more out there on your own and you do have to call all the shots. There’s no sort of support system.” Despite his fears, Ledwell is positive. “I think it will be a fun change.”While Ledwell’s solo career is just taking off, he’s already got his sights set on his next project. In-Flight Safety are getting ready to leave The Coast is Clear behind them. They’re currently working on new material for their next album, though Ledwell refuses to give any timeline. Hopefully returning to the fold will quash any diva-like behaviour Ledwell picks up while out on his own.

This story originally appeared in the January 24, 2007 issue of the Coast.

 

Holy Smokes

Holy Fuck are an unorthodox band. There’s the name, the lack of lyrics, the improvised studio sessions and the revolving-door rhythm section (which has included members from stylistically divergent groups like Blue Rodeo and Wintersleep). And somehow, the band, playing Saturday at the Marquee, even found themselves touring as underground rapper Beans’s backing band.

Though it seems an odd fit, Holy Fuck mastermind Brian Borcherdt was thrilled by the opportunity. “The eight-year-old in me was really excited,” he says. “The first style of music that I ever got excited about was rap and breakdancing. I was a shitty little breakdancer.” As kids, Borcherdt and his brother would visit their grandparents in Delaware, where Friday nights they would listen to a hip-hop radio show broadcasting out of Philadelphia. “We’d stay up late with our cassettes armed and ready in the ghetto blaster,” he says. Hip-hop was still mostly an underground movement at the time, and despite the Borcherdt brothers’ fervour for the genre, back home in Nova Scotia, other kids in school didn’t share that passion. “All the kids in school would tease us and make fun of us, but we were like, Just you wait.’”

Bortcherdt had aspirations to make rap records, but as he got older, he began to find the entire rap game a bit daunting—”I didn’t think I was cool enough for it”—and began to move towards the more rock-oriented sound that would characterize his earliest musical projects. After a stint in By Divine Right, Borcherdt took up the Holy Fuck moniker and began playing shows on his own. He was soon joined by Graham Walsh, who would become the only other consistent member of the band. “It’s a bit of a blessing and a hindrance at the same time,” says Borcherdt of Holy Fuck’s ever-changing rhythm section. “We get into that situation simply because the people we’ve been lucky to work with are in other bands.” Borcherdt says that if Holy Fuck demanded its players be exclusive to the band, he never would have had the opportunity to play with so many talented people. “These people are all really exciting to work with and every time we play with them they bring something new to it.

“I really don’t see how people could be satisfied doing one single thing,” he says. “It’s kind of like, You can only play one board game.’ Man, I got stuck with Boggle for the rest of my life? I want to play Scrabble!” Holy Fuck spent three years on the road, establishing themselves, then promoting their self-released, self-titled debut. Early in 2007 they released a new EP—Borcherdt describes it as a demo intended to attract label support. It did, and this fall, the group put out its sophmore effort, LP, on Young Turks. “That’s really exciting,” says Borcherdt. “It’s the first thing I’ve ever done that has been supported outside of my own means.”

The record consists of greatest hits from studio, radio and live recordings from the past year. “We still didn’t sit down and make an album proper,” where the band goes into a studio and comes out with a record a week later. “We still haven’t had that opportunity and I’d like to,” says Borcherdt. The band worked with different musicians and producers, including Mr. Final Fantasy, Owen Pallett. After he wowed them with an onstage collaboration, the band invited him to cut their song “Lovely Allen” in a studio. The resulting track sounds like the most premeditated thing the band has ever done. Not so, says Borcherdt. Pallet works incredibly quickly and the whole thing was done in a day. “It gives the illusion because it has more of a pop style or melody,” he says. Though they’ve come to it in a rather haphazard fashion, Holy Fuck are now well respected in Canada and abroad, fitting “somewhere in line between weird German experimental music and breakdancing.” The new record recently hit number one on CBC Radio 3. So, would an eight-year old Borcherdt be happy? “All I need is to fly the Millennium Falcon and I’m done.”

This story originally appeared in the January 17 issue of the Coast.